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What is this talk about card readers for picture transfer all about? A lot of people seem to prefer this method.
I just connect my camera to the PC with the supplied USB cable and switch on the camera. Voila, the PSE6 transfer dialogue pops up, where I can select which pictures to transfer, select my destination folder and even automatically rename the files if I so desire.
Finally there is an option for automatic deletion of the card contents after the transfer is complete.
This seems to me a much simpler and quicker method than first removing the memory card, finding the card reader, putting it into the PC USB port, transfer the pictures and then reinserting the memory card in the camera. (Of course, the PSE6 transfer functions do work for card readers as well). Best regards
Terry
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Card readers can be quicker, card readers often come with freebie recovery software, card readers wont send a virus up the USB cable into your camera
Just kidding on the last one of course
I got into the habit of using the transfer cable with my istD, I always thought the connecting pins for CF cards to be a bit fragile, so left it where it was as often as possible.
Now of course, using the cable is just habit, even if I have a 4gb card full I just set to copy and go put the kettle on
One other thing, I'm sure I read somewhere that it is advisable to delete images via the camera and not the PC. My Names Alan, and I'm a lensaholic.
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womble
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12 years
Hertfordshire, mostly.
I use both methods. My latest memory card came with a tiny little card reader which is actually quite convenient and smaller than carting the cable about. One thing in its favour is that I have in the past forgotten the camera was attached. Once, I moved the laptop and watched in horror as my K10 fell to the ground. Thankfully, Pentax make 'em tough and no damage was sustained. Lastly, my original cable stopped working a few weeks back and I had to buy a replacement off fleabay.
I don't think it really matters one way or the other.
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iceblinker
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13 years
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terje-l wrote:
This seems to me a much simpler and quicker method than first removing the memory card, finding the card reader, putting it into the PC USB port, transfer the pictures and then reinserting the memory card in the camera. (Of course, the PSE6 transfer functions do work for card readers as well).

Removing the memory card from the camera: I can hardly imagine an easier task.
Manual Finding the card reader and putting it into the port: no more difficult than finding a cable to connect to the camera.
I use a card reader (or more usually the SD slot in the computer) because it's physically more convenient than having the camera next to the computer on my over-crowded desk. It also saves camera battery power.
Transfering the files is done extremely easily via the operating system or whatever software you want to use. ~Peteiceblinker wrote:
terje-l wrote:
This seems to me a much simpler and quicker method than first removing the memory card, finding the card reader, putting it into the PC USB port, transfer the pictures and then reinserting the memory card in the camera. (Of course, the PSE6 transfer functions do work for card readers as well).

Removing the memory card from the camera: I can hardly imagine an easier task.
Finding the card reader and putting it into the port: no more difficult than finding a cable to connect to the camera.
I use a card reader (or more usually the SD slot in the computer) because it's physically more convenient than having the camera next to the computer on my over-crowded desk. It also saves camera battery power.
Transfering the files is done extremely easily via the operating system or whatever software you want to use.
I agree, wouldnt do it any other way, I want to minimise all chances of K10 or 20D being knocked over, caught up tangled up etc anywhere near my pc, those Sandisk micromate sd readers are really really fast too!

Bob and his Pentax
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13 years
Bristol UK
Well everyone does things in their own way.
Personally I use a card reader because often it isn't just a case of connect the computer and down load.
When out on a 'shoot' I can easily use more than one card - for example as official Photographer for 1 hour Drifters show I took 100 shots on K10D and 250 shots on K20D all RAW+JPG giving about 13GB of pictures spread over 4 4GB cards. So I would have to remove and reinsert cards in the camera many times if I used the camera for transfer. For me a card reader is simply more convenient.
Also I use a rotation through 16 4Gb cards and the pictures stay on the cards till I use them again giving me a backup during the period where I would be processing the pictures and before my normal backup procedure takes a copy to a second disk.
Card readers are also designed to use removable media ie you can take out a card without stopping and starting the USB reader (just need to ensure you aren't accessing it); but to change the card in the camera you have to stop the USB device (camera), turn camera off, open the door, change card, close door, turn camera on, then wait for computer to recognise the 'new' USB device before you start copying.
I also wish to avoid the risk of camera battery exhaustion during transfer (I find 4GB takes about 15 minutes with USB 2 - or a frightening 55 minutes with USB 1 on my 8 year old lap top)
But if you only use one card and never take enough pictures to fill it up (K20D RAW+JPG is only 100 pictures on 4GB card) I agree that it would be more convenient to down load direct from camera. But I would hesitate to copy and automatically delete at the end of transfer - disk crashes can happen at any time!
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pgweber
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13 years
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My concern is about 'wear and tear' on the USB socket in the camera with repeated un/plugging, so I have gone the card reader route.
I used to use a £10 SanDisk card reader, which worked fine with xD and SD cards, before I bought a laptop with card reader built-in.
I suppose there is 'wear and tear' with removing/inserting cards and opening the card slot door, but I judged these to be more robust than the socket. Peter
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Mongoose
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14 years
Wiltshire, England
My laptop and eeepc both have built in SD card readers, so going that route saves me having to carry the cable around. It's lazyness basically! you don't have to be mad to post here
but it does help

beakynet
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13 years
South East London
Mongoose wrote:
My laptop and eeepc both have built in SD card readers, so going that route saves me having to carry the cable around. It's lazyness basically!

Does the eeePC have an HDSD compatable reader? Also, what is the device like for reviewing pictures? I am interested as this could be a good way to back up and review in the field. Bodies: K5IIs, K7, MZ5n, LX, MV
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I allways use a cardreader, the read speed is higher then wath the camera can achieve, alltough I haven't tried it with my K20D though.
The *ist-DS is painfully slow with copying.
The Sandisk Extreme-III SDHC cards come with a small cardreader, which I allways carry in my camera bag. Camera:K20D Ist*DS Spotmatic II MZ-10
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screwdriver
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15 years
North Derbyshire
I fitted a card reader into the now defunct floppy drive slot on my PC yonks ago. Its a USB 2, but won't take the newer SDHC cards, so all my cards are 2Gb San Disk Extreme 3. No doubt newer ones will have the SDHC ability, but I don't feel the need - yet. Chris
I occasionally have more than one card from which to download. The major problem is probably that my computer desk is so cluttered there is no place to put the camera while it downloads.
If, using the cable works for you, go for it. Me, I'm hooked on readers.

Mongoose
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14 years
Wiltshire, England
beakynet wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
My laptop and eeepc both have built in SD card readers, so going that route saves me having to carry the cable around. It's lazyness basically!
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Does the eeePC have an HDSD compatable reader? Also, what is the device like for reviewing pictures? I am interested as this could be a good way to back up and review in the field.
That's exactly what I use it for, on rare occasions I've even processed RAW files with it. The reader is SDHC, and the screen, while small, is very good indeed. I have the first generation 2G eee, so I download to 8GB pen-drives. I have also picked up a third party massive capacity battery, which gives me about 6 hours run time. you don't have to be mad to post here
but it does help
Bob and his Pentax wrote:
Card readers are also designed to use removable media ie you can take out a card without stopping and starting the USB reader (just need to ensure you aren't accessing it); but to change the card in the camera you have to stop the USB device (camera), turn camera off, open the door, change card, close door, turn camera on, then wait for computer to recognise the 'new' USB device before you start copying.

Are you saying it's ok just to pull out the card when it's finished copying, without going through the 'safely remove hardware' routine? My Flickrnilescrane wrote:

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Bob and his Pentax wrote:
Card readers are also designed to use removable media ie you can take out a card without stopping and starting the USB reader (just need to ensure you aren't accessing it); but to change the card in the camera you have to stop the USB device (camera), turn camera off, open the door, change card, close door, turn camera on, then wait for computer to recognise the 'new' USB device before you start copying.

Are you saying it's ok just to pull out the card when it's finished copying, without going through the 'safely remove hardware' routine?

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This is true for Windows XP and higher (Don't know about Mac's).

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Windows XP has write behind caching disabled for removable media, this means that data that has to be writen to the card is not buffered before it is actually written to the card.

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When reading from a card however you have nothing to do with write caching. Camera:K20D Ist*DS Spotmatic II MZ-10
Pentax Lenses: DA16-45 DA50-200 50A 1.7
Tamron Lenses: 28-200
Takumar Lenses: SMC 55 1.8
Sigma Lenses: EX DG 50-500 'Bigma' EX 50mm Macro
Flashes: Metz 58 AF-1 Samsung SEF-36PZF Pentax AF-220T
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